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icklegoth101 wrote:lol
yeah long shinny black hir with a long black coat or johnny depp from sleepy hollow either way am not fussed
and no way picky lol lol lol

am expecting 2 find one next sunday let the best woman win lol

Forever Young wrote:Oh Darn!! Women on the prowl and I'm not going to be there! (ok so I don't have long shiny hair but I do have a long black coat! )

and I know that this article has been posted somewhere here before.....I just can't find it in the brief 20 seconds that I looked!

Stormwytch wrote:I'm not very happy about the comment about looking a 't***' in your 30's and I think both Akasha and I have proved that statement wrong on countless occasions grrr

If only he'll turn Gothic

Parents who want the best for their children's future can only hope that they'll end up in the Gothic subculture, far away from the noxious popculture or, even worse, r&b. At first sight this might not appear very desirable, but a study at the University of Sussex has proven that those who hang around with Goths in their youth, have a higher risk of becoming a doctor, lawyer or architect.

The research, done by doctoral-student Dunja Brill, studied the Gothic subculture in Brighton, Edinburgh, Berlin and Keulen. It concluded that the youngsters who set themselves apart from the rest by their black clothes, vamirish look and morbid taste in music, are bourgeois deep in their heart. 'They won't like to hear me say it', declared the researcher to the British newspaper The Daily Telegraph, 'but contrary to the punk movement, Goths are rooted in the middle class.'

Goths turned out, contrary to youth in other subcultures, to not fancy drugs, but to get a kick out of books. That's why, on average, they read more than other teenagers, which gives them an important advantage in communicative skills. But on top of that, Goths are much more interested in poetry, literature and arts, all qualities that could help in a professional career.

Despite all these advantages, parents are still worried when their child comes home dressed like a fallen angel. 'Many parents are worried that their children might be depressed or even suicidal when they start wearing black, but this is only seldomly the case', says Brill. 'They do have a sarcastic kind of humour that can appear rather harsh, but actually they're even very capable of expressing their emotions.'

Also when it comes to sexual morals, as a teenager you're better off in the Gothic than in whichever other subculture. With their spiked collars, chains and leather accessories they look like the whole community are followers of sadomasochism, but the research points out that, concerning the ladies, they're everything but open in their sexuality. 'Even more: most of them are firm believers in true love and romance and not at all looking for one-night stands.'

But the researcher can understand where the prejudice about Gothic teens comes from, since the killings at Columbine High School in 1999, where 12 students and a teacher were killed by two teens who were probably fans of Marilyn Manson, the world's most famous Gothic artist. 'But most of the real Gothic teens don't accept Marilyn Manson as a part of their subculture,' concluded Brill. 'Moreover, the lyrics of Marilyn and every other respected Gothic artist aren't really taken seriously.'

'Goths are not satanists', concludes Brill, 'they are intelligent youngsters who don't want to bow down to the criteria of being a teenager. And many Gothic teens stay with their ideals for the rest of their lives. They might wear less eye-catching clothes later on, have a good job, a house and even kids, but they stay true to their ideas.'

I get accused of being a goth because of the black hair, piercings, evil demeanor etc. But i'm not a real goth (or is that the test?)- i work for the National Trust and do loads of activism with Greenpeace and other groups in my spare time. I wish other "goths" would be less mopey and apathetic and down on the world and take action to change it instead of just superficial aesthetic rebellion!
Felicity, London

blckencht wrote:There's so many comments on the first BBC one that I could comment on but this one in particular caught my attention:

I get accused of being a goth because of the black hair, piercings, evil demeanor etc. But i'm not a real goth (or is that the test?)- i work for the National Trust and do loads of activism with Greenpeace and other groups in my spare time. I wish other "goths" would be less mopey and apathetic and down on the world and take action to change it instead of just superficial aesthetic rebellion!
Felicity, London

mmmmm. So goths can't have worthwhile jobs or have an agenda or take any kind of action in life like volunteering for good causes and the like? It's people like this who really piss me off, stuck so far up their own arse they can't see beyond their own petty prejudices. I hate people who make assumptions that if you're into goth you're some kind of pseudorebel who only cares about fashion and scaring the trendies.

Goths are by no means all teenagers. They range in age from 15 to 50 and for many it is not a phase they pass through, but a way of life they incorporate into their adult identities.